that they knew what was coming long before it even happened. the rather add penetration under president obama, they sort of turned their head the other way, did nothing. the sec and these other organizations that were in place, supposedly the watchdogs for these institutions did nothing, and when the mortgage industry fell, everything else just followed suit. it's ent related. people loster that houses, their pension funds, their savings, everything all in a short part of a period of two years. >> former secretary of state condoleezza rice referred to education in the u.s. as quote the civil rights struggle of our day. do you agree with that assessment? if so, how do you address it. >> it's always been a civil rights struggle. i had the opportunity while i was doing to are sue my education, i had a chance it study the school system. it's always been a problem. my point of view -- i thought bussings with a dpd thing, but it enabled our young kids to get a better education than where they were. this has been a problem going on since the 1900's, going back that far. it's in the just now. it's al